Copyright 1998-2010 Tweakers.net Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:16:21 GMT Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:16:21 GMT http://tweakers.net/reviews/76 Tweakblogs.net is the weblog service provided by Tweakers.net, the largest hardwaresite and techcommunity in the Netherlands. http://tweakblogs.net/ http://tweakimg.net/g/if/logo.gif 60 60 Tweakblogs.net en http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net frontpage@tweakers.net http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_12244 this one works great http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html terabyte http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_12244#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_12244 Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:29:11 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_8207 Why not participate in the ' Give One' project and buy a laptop that lives up to your standards with the money you saved. Blonde Tux http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_8207#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209#r_8207 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:26:47 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_7870 Yeah, that's a bad habit of mine, those "..." I edited a lot of them out not always smart to type these things late at night. M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_7870#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209#r_7870 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:30:21 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_7868 Reading's sort of a pain as every sentence ends with either a proclamation, a questionmark or (main annoyance) '....'. Goudvis Jan http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_7868#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209#r_7868 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:25:25 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_7867 maybe for Europa it's better to buy a OLPC, and get a MSI Wind Blasterxp http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209/give-one-get-one-or-get-a-better-one.html#r_7867#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1209#r_7867 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:23:32 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7335 Such a recognisable problem I have to use windows for gaming, but for most other stuff I prefer linux. That was one of the reasons I loved Neverwinter nights: A nice RPG that doesn't require me to reboot. It really is a shame that bioware decided to build neverwinter nights 2 with directx, I never really got wine to work with all that stuff. Your remark about the boot screen made me smile.. it's so recognisable. A 'feature' of windows is that, while it is booting, it doesn't tell you what it is doing, just that it's booting. For some reason it is very pleasant to know roughly what it is doing, and to be able to find out why it is doing it. Even if my box doesn't run Ubuntu but Gentoo, it's still quite recognisable Hadron http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7335#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7335 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:00:44 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7330 I'm only a casual gamer and for that reason switched to consoles. This gives me the option to run whatever I feel comfortable with as my main OS, which used to be Linux but has been replaced by Mac OS X a little over two years ago. I feel the latter one gives me the best of both worlds as I can compile almost any Unix based piece of software I want while on the other hand I can use commercial software if I need it. froggie http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7330#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7330 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:32:18 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7318 I have the same problem. I've been sick and tired of windows for years and been wanting to switch to Linux. However I'm completely locked in XP. I know every corner, every little trick and setting in there. With Linux I have to start over and rediscover a lot, it is that efford that holds me back. Ironically it is that very same reason that holds me back from Vista, although I have a dual boot now. In time I will most likely switch to Vista (and Windows 7 in the future) for playing and developing games, and do everything else in Linux. The dual booting can be a drag however running a local server fixed a few issues I had with that, I run IRC and MSN proxies on that so I don't go offline when I reboot. An added advantage is that I can close those down when gaming. Wezz6400 http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7318#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7318 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:48:24 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7300 I confess!! I have the same addiction, apart from the fact that I have a dual boot system and I game in Linux! CS:Source well playable on my mid/low range machine (Athlon 4400+/2Gb ram/Nvidia 6600GT 128mb). Steam runs like a charm. I the beginning, when doubting to install dualboot, I never really took the effort of installing windows and I've grown to never use it, but wait, I have 2 work laptops, both running Windows XP. I get my secret fix there from Whenever I run into a problem on Linux, I try to resolve it, try to fix it. With some, I learn to live, with some, I get angry and then try to live. Dual soundcard isn't easy, I can tell you that. Your story sounds so familiar.... X-DraGoN http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7300#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7300 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:51:17 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7298 Thank you guys...! I really need the support You guys are true friends M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7298#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7298 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:22:33 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7295 I had a dual boot for a while, now it's arch64 only:) Thinking about a virtual machine with windows for some school stuff. For games i have a PS3.. Dr. Horrible http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7295#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7295 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:02:31 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7291 I installed linux (ubuntu) a while ago in a dualboot with Vista, I really enjoyed Linux but (perhaps unfortunatly) I keep booting Windows instead of Linux. TrekDude101 http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7291#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7291 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:32:46 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7285 At some point you'll grow over the gaming stuff, problem solved domi235 http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7285#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7285 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:07:29 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7280 I also have dual boot (vista x64/gentoo), but it usually results in not using linux at all. One of the main issues of dual boot is the reboot aspect. When I have a day off (like today, *cheers*) I tend to free-roam around many applications. Some of them have worthy replacements on linux, but others (esp. games) can hardly be run on Linux. I did get CS 1.6 to play nice with Wine with acceptable performance, but CSS is a no-go performance wise. The PC itself is not to blame, it's a Q6600 @ 3GHz with 2GB of RAM and a GF8800GTS640. Other games like Cabal online cannot be run on Wine because of the nProtect anti-hackers tool. On a regular usage pattern this would mean plenty of reboots at 3-5 minutes each which is just a plain no-go if one moment you want to do X and before the app has properly started you choose to do Y. All this jumping over the fence or the resulting sitting-on-the-fence-not-knowing-what-to-pick is tiresome. I did find the holy grale though: run Gentoo in a VM on top of windows. But then I ask myself: why run linux in a VM if (nearly) all applications you want to run are available natively on windows? So I stick with Satan. (Although in my opinion Vista is really not as bad as people say. Eat that from an embedded linux engineer!) H!GHGuY http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7280#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7280 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:44:05 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7278 If you only use windows for your games anymore, have you ever tried Crossover Games I use it on Mac OS X, and if the games you play are supported it works pretty well, and it allows you to run other windows programs as well. It's based on Wine, but somehow it integrates all possible steps better it seems without having to do much research and trying out yourself. Adion http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7278#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7278 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:38:37 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7277 Use your OS as a tool, not as religion. Pinata http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167/a-doubters-confession.html#r_7277#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1167#r_7277 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:33:34 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7197 Personal interest and choice... read the comments and my responses at this blog entry: http://m-opensource.tweak...to-tweakers-punt-net.html M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7197#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7197 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:04:10 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7196 Wat is de reden om in het engels te bloggen op een nederlandse site? NEOeo http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7196#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7196 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:48:47 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7195 he still needs to install extra libs for 32bit plugins jelly http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7195#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7195 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:00:47 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7194 Just give Opera a try, it can use 32bit plugins. Chilly_Willy http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7194#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7194 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:08:58 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7189 @Jungian I actually think that's a brilliant piece of writing! M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7189#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7189 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:48:44 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7188 Appendix A : 97% population estimate is based on both (32 and 64-bit users). Jungian http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7188#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7188 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:46:56 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7187 you're ony hope is gnash, because adobe will not make a 64bit version for gnu/linux jelly http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7187#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7187 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:44:48 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7186 ===== Before we start another rantathon : * I like 64-bit computing. * I like(d) GNU/Linux. * This is THE ONE TRUTH. You can't disagree (no really, don't even think about it). ===== Adobe just targets the largest group of users with the least amount of work. It's neither silly nor a crusade against FOSS or 64-bit computing. No amount of moaning/bitching/screaming/blogging and/or God complex is gonna help you combat that. In their eyes you're just being an annoying cunt. "Normal" people (read : Windows and OS X users) use 32-bit libraries, 32-bit browsers and 32-bit plugins to the browse the web on their 64-bit operating systems. Not one of _these_ users (we're talking about > 97% of the Earth's webbrowsing population here) has ever needed more than 2GB per browser process. Google Chrome and IE 8.0 further eliminate this problem by using more than one browser process. You might also notice very few people in this gigantic population giving a crap about the memory spent loading in 32-bit libraries, nor the space on the hard disk they take up. -> No problems here "N00b" GNU/Linux-users use 64-bit browsers, decent 64-bit wrappers for 32-bit libraries (rejoice ! nspluginwrapper doesn't suck as bad anymore) and 32-bit plugins. This gets the job done just as well as any 32-bit GNU/Linux system can. -> No problems here Only the the best, the smartest, the superhuman elite use 64-bit browsers and crappy makeshift reverse-engineered flash-plugins. There's also a group refusing to use "this garbage", referring to both Adobe Flash and the makeshift pieces of shit trying to emulate it. It's hard to discern which group is less insane : the "fascist" group or the cellar dwellers without access to the Youtubes. -> Adobe doesn't care about you The last important group to discuss is the BSD-user. The simplest way to view them is as ascended human beings. They no longer need any browsers, or plugins. They _are_ the machine (which elimates the need for a God complex). -> No problems here Jungian http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7186#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7186 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:41:31 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7185 If you Linuxlovers would stand op and demand 1 version, instead of 23425 differant distro's, then you would have a reason to ask for a decent version (which is available).Different distributions are hardly the cause for the lack of a 64-bit version. There are enough ways to make a distribution-independent version of your software. But that's not an argument even if the above weren't true, because they distribute their 32 bit software now as well!And installing a .deb... You need this lib, and that lib. Ow wait you need the dev version, and you need to compile that first, and make a symlink here, and there, and modprobe that.That's probably the single most false statement I've seen in a while. If you install a debian package, the packagemanager resolves dependencies for you. This is something Windows cannot do by the way. What you're saying is only true if you want to compile software from source, but most programs come in debian packages so that's hardly an issue. You demonstrate a huge lack of understanding of the issue here. It's not impossible to run Flash on a 64 bit Ubuntu machine, but you'll have to take a huge detour because for some weird reason Adobe does not have a 64 bit version and that's silly. Cyphax http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7185#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7185 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:56:42 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7184 And from another point of view: when does your browser needs more than 2 GB's of memory?Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. W3ird_N3rd http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7184#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7184 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:22:26 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7183 @Snake Installing a .deb actually fetches all required libraries and automizes these for you... Plus, all those distros are still based on a certain kernel which actually DOES follow a planning. Just do a search on google for it and you'll find enough about it.... Let me simplify this for you, because obviously you don't like homework. Those distros are just a 'shell' around those kernels and differ per distro because not everyone wants the same like you. And the argument "it sucks"b makes you sound like you're twelve years old... grow up and learn to construct your reasons... @Mr.Chinchilla You are right, I stand corrected on Windows Vista. I myself use Windows Xp 64-bit (work) and my reasons were based on the Xp version of x64. Here 32-bit is also emulated but 16-bit code is still present. And above all... if you're running 64-bit natively, I think there shouldn't be any 32-bit libraries/software present, wether you're running Linux, Windows, BSD or whatever... 64-bit is 64-bit... I think it's not pretty to run it next to eachother, even though it's technically possible. 32-bit is very outdated and should've ended several years ago... Funny enough, Microsoft is the one perpetuating this need for 32-bit software... now that's what I call innovation M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7183#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7183 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:58:21 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7182 @M-Opensource Windows x64 is native 64-bit. It just includes a WoW64 (Windows(32) on Windows64) layer that allows all 32-bit applications to still run. So indeed, this is emulated. But the OS is still native 64-bit if you run 64-bit applications. Furthermore, 16-bit applications no longer run on the x64 Windows editions. They removed the 16-bit subsystem (there was no need, but they just wanted to remove support for all this old stuff). Mr.Chinchilla http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7182#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7182 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:54:45 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7181 There is NO 16-bit code in Vista x64, it's not even supported. If you Linuxlovers would stand op and demand 1 version, instead of 23425 differant distro's, then you would have a reason to ask for a decent version (which is available). And still then you don't have a reason to ask for a 64-bit version because the 32-bit version works perfect. FYI, I've run Ubuntu as only OS for .5 years, and it is now that I take my conclusions. It sucks, and as long as there is no decent planning, no decent management, it still will suck, and no big compagny will put money in an OS which changes it's kernel every release (I am refering to drivers now). And installing a .deb... You need this lib, and that lib. Ow wait you need the dev version, and you need to compile that first, and make a symlink here, and there, and modprobe that. Well I install .NET framework on a computer and my program runs. Snake http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7181#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7181 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:48:31 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7180 @Snake Wrong, a reason why you would run Firefox x64 is because you want a native 64-bit system. Windows x64 is not native 64-bit... no mather what you say. Because Windows still runs with a part of 32-bit code and even some 16-bit code!!! And why sould I use a mainstream OS because the bigger part of the world uses it? If it's ok for you to have everything decided for you, then I'm happy for you. But I'm not one of those people who agree and nod with everything a big corporation tells me... I'm not a sheep... The Linux group is growing bigger and bigger, even on the desktop! And for a company like Adobe to ignore all those openSUSE, Ubuntu Fedora users (and many others) is just a shame... btw, have you EVER installed a .deb file? Sounds to me you've never done anything like that... Because it actually takes even less steps than isntalling an .exe I feel sorry for your narrow-minded view on things, luckily there are people on this earth that think different and dare to say or do different than just mainstream! M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7180#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7180 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:36:08 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7179 @Herko_ter_horst: About follow the market leader. Do I have problems with my browser? No Do I have problems with my wireless? No Do I need to apply 234235 modifications to get a driver running? No How many ways are there for me to install a program? 1. Double click the exe. No RPM shit, no DEB shit, no TAR.GZ shit. About the 32-bit libraries. What space do they take? 200MB? Oeh noes, 200MB of your new 1TB disk. Like I said: the only (AND ONLY) reason for Firefox to run in 64-bit mode is to use more than 2GB of virtual memory. You blame me of following the market leader, well I don't seem to have problem with anything of the above ^. Snake http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7179#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7179 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:10:39 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7178 @4VAlien I don't use VM's for browsing or whatever... I use them for other tasks, hobby projects and such. Browsing is all done within my Linux host M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7178#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7178 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:51:38 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7177 "Let me power up my Windows computer (Vista 64-bit). Do I need tons of libraries to install Firefox 32-bit?" Actually, yes you do. Windows Vista x64 just makes them available by default (which means a pure 64bit system isn't possible on Vista even if you wanted to). "And from another point of view: when does your browser needs more than 2 GB's of memory? Right. Never." He isn't talking about his browser. He's talking about his system, which - in addition to a browser - needs to run applications that do need more than 2GB/4GB. "you are a niche market" Obviously with sheep like you who blindly follow what market leaders force upon them, who and who don't like choices and think Microsoft makes "da best OS EVAR!!!1!!1" it will stay that way... Herko_ter_Horst http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7177#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7177 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:42:57 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7176 If you want to use Flash Player do it in your host, not your VM. But wait, then you have to install a sorts of libraries to run a 32-bit Firefox. Let me power up my Windows computer (Vista 64-bit). Do I need tons of libraries to install Firefox 32-bit? Nop... And from another point of view: when does your browser needs more than 2 GB's of memory? Right. Never. So it's a fail from Linux, and a double fail from you. Stop bitching, you are a niche market, and you can't expect a company (who wants to gain money, that's their business model) to make software for that market… Use a mainstream OS, and think mainstream (that is: my browser never uses more than 500MB of memory, so why the hell do I need a fully blown 64-bit version of it?) I posted this on my own blog 2 days ago: and it's actually the same I write here ^ http://kristofmattei.be/2...gins-and-64-bit-browsers/ Snake http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7176#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7176 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:10:35 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7175 Im terribly sorry to hear that you have to start a separate virtual machine for browsing (in the worst case scenario). I guess this is a major problem which affects over 95% of PC users and should be fixed asap. > Niche powerusers just aren't worth the extra development cost. Also in true open source spirit, since Adobe has released it's Flash format: build your own if you're not happy with the way things work. 4VAlien http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7175#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7175 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:05:28 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7174 Bigmem is an ugly hack/solution to gain more space to address. I prefer the full 64Bit power also. Another test when developing Java with Glashfish server, the 32Bit with Bigmem patch can't compete with the power of a 64Bit kernel. It's blazingly fast! I join the statement, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that a 32 Bit version can be made available, but 64 Bit is out of the picture. Adobe, SHAME ON YOU LinuX-TUX http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7174#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7174 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:58:08 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7173 I am running the same version as you (Ubuntu x64) and I haven't experienced much crashes of my browser. I am using Firefox as main browser. X-DraGoN http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7173#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7173 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:55:26 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7172 That's my whole point, I want to run native 64-bit so VMware can use more than 2gb per VM... Sometimes that's necessary. And VMware launches a different process per VM as far as I know. Btw, it's not that I'm looking for a solution with this post... I'm trying to address the actions Adobe is taking with their products and generally 'ignoring' the demand of native 64-bit software @X-DraGoN My browser is not crashing, the Flash player is crashing so Flash content isn't loaded on websites I open after such a 'crash'. M-Opensource http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7172#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7172 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:54:56 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7170 I use a custom kernel on my linux desktop with bigmem support, so more than 4GB on a 32bits Linux environment shouldn't be a problem. Only the available address space per proces is limited to 2GB afaik ,but that should be enough for most applications. AtleX http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166/adobe-why-is-it-so-hard.html#r_7170#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1166#r_7170 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:50:54 GMT http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1108/switching-to-tweakers-punt-net.html#r_6838 Mijn volledige support wanneer je besluit in het engels te schrijven. Engels is nu eenmaal een wereldtaal en in tegenstelling wat sommige mensen zeggen/denken best een MOEILIJKE taal. Ik heb zelf ook een blog (niet op tweakers) en die's ook in het engels. Ik vind het niet alleen leuk, uitdagend en leerrijk om in het engels te schrijven maar je bereikt er ook een breder publiek mee (natuurlijk hier nu niet echt, maar toch) Keep up the good work Deltathree http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1108/switching-to-tweakers-punt-net.html#r_6838#reacties http://m-opensource.tweakblogs.net/blog/1108#r_6838 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:51:54 GMT